I checked PCK broker buy - sells for the past month (I am a large holder). Pershing were a net buyer of 10 million shares and Commsec were net sellers of 4.5 million. My broker tells me it could be Shaw Stockbroking, who use Pershing apparently. I guess you would say that is a positive sign. I was a bit rude yesterday mainly because I was still thinking about a previous poster who presented TAR as a dead certainty, I should have just said you need to be very careful about using broker data to interpret trades. I hope you accept my apology and we move on as we both spend a bit of time around here.