Howdy wotsup
*According to I John 2:22,
Anyone - preacher, teacher or organisation - that denies that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is called
false prophets and is 'anti-Christ',
siding with the Anti-Christ (The Enemy,The Deceiver, Satan).
Period *
Q3. Do you agree with the Word of God, in 1 John 2?
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It only 2-3 minutes to answer, in simple English , my two questions*#*.
(Still waiting)
Instead of your personal statement of faith (too personal?), why not post your organisation's
Statement of Faith?
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wotsup said: ↑
Hi wotsup
Q1.
Statement of Faith ( re in simple English) I asked you 2-3 weeks ago . You had not tried to answer it.
You are the fair man - can/will you answer?
Q2
"Is the Father God? Is the Son God? Is Holy Spirit God?"
A simple & direct question.
This is trying to understand your position here; will/can you answer?"
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Glyco said: ↑
Deceptions & Cults have been around for nearly 2000 years, since AD80-90, the time of Apostle John.
They are not new.
This is directly from the Word of God, not my words:
(*According to I John:
Anyone - preacher, teacher or organisation - that denies that Jesus Christ has
come in the flesh is called false prophets and is 'anti-Christ',
siding with the Anti-Christ (The Enemy,The Deceiver, Satan).
Period
NIV, KJV, Amplified Bible (s) )
For more:
Genesis 1, John1, 1John1, Colossians 1, Eph 1,2
Amplified Bible
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1 John 2:22 ,
NIV
Who is the liar?
It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ.
Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
KJV
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Amplified
22 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed)?
This is the antichrist
[the enemy and antagonist of Christ],
the one who denies and consistently refuses to acknowledge the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies and repudiates the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses and acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Amplified Bible
1 John 4:
Testing the Spirits4
1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit
[speaking through a self-proclaimed prophet];
instead test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets and teachers have gone out into the world.
2 By this you know and recognize the Spirit of God:
every spirit that acknowledges and confesses [the fact] that Jesus Christ has [actually] come in the flesh [as a man] is from God [God is its source];
3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus [acknowledging that He has come in the flesh, but would deny any of the Son’s true nature] is not of God;
this is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and is now already in the world.
4 Little children (believers, dear ones), you are of God and you belong to Him and have [already] overcome them [the agents of the antichrist]; because He who is in you is greater than he (Satan) who is in the world [of sinful mankind].
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Amplified Bible
1 John 4:
Testing the Spirits
4
1 Beloved,
do not believe every spirit
[speaking through a self-proclaimed prophet];
instead test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets and teachers have gone out into the world.
2 By this you know and recognize the Spirit of God: every spirit that acknowledges and confesses [the fact] that Jesus Christ has [actually] come in the flesh [as a man] is from God [God is its source];
3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus [acknowledging that He has come in the flesh, but would deny any of the Son’s true nature] is not of God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and is now already in the world.
4 Little children (believers, dear ones), you are of God and you belong to Him and have [already] overcome them [the agents of the antichrist]; because He who is in you is greater than he (Satan) who is in the world [of sinful mankind].
5 They [who teach twisted doctrine] are of the world and belong to it; therefore they speak from the [viewpoint of the] world [with its immoral freedom and baseless theories—demanding compliance with their opinions and ridiculing the values of the upright], and the [gullible one of the] world listens closely and pays attention to them.
6 We [who teach God’s word] are from God [energized by the Holy Spirit], and whoever knows God [through personal experience] listens to us [and has a deeper understanding of Him]. Whoever is not of God does not listen to us. By this we know [without any doubt] the spirit of truth [motivated by God] and the spirit of error [motivated by Satan].
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 John 2:18-4:6&version=AMP
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Glyco said: ↑
I can testify with my own experience that Holy Spirit is real, and gifted/given/deposited to all true Christian believers, whether they realise or not, according to Scriptures
Here is a website that promotes the idea of the Holy Spirit as more than just the spirit of God.
The Person of the Holy Spirit
I have no interest in verifying or refuting the ideas in the website, but thought it may be of interest to as it is the most extensive one that I have seen, and you are one of a few who post on this forum who have this view.
Cheers,
whereu
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What are Cults:
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wotsup said: ↑
Hi wotup,
30 years ago, i learnt from many sound Biblical teachers that one of key characteristic of cults:
They reject the doctrine of Trinity, and/or deity of Jesus Christ, and/or deity of the Holy Spirit
There are many books, charts and links exposing what a cult is.
Here are some samples:
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Character of the Cults | Bible.org
https://bible.org/article/character-cults
Oct 1, 2010 -
What is a cult?
The greatest authority on the cults, the late Dr. Walter Martin, described a cult as “A group of people gathered around a specific person’s misinterpretation of the Bible.”2 Cults are groups that claim to be in harmony with Christianity but deny foundational Christian doctrines such as the Trinity or the unique deity of Jesus Christ.
In Matthew 7:15-17,
Jesus gives us a warning about the coming of the cults. He states,
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them.”
What Jesus was warning was that cultists will look, act, and sound like Christians.
However, that is only in external appearance. One can parade as a true believer for a time, but eventually one’s words, actions, and especially one’s beliefs--their “fruit”--will give one away as a counterfeit......."
2.
Christianity, Sects and Cults - Comparison Chart - Sound Christian
www.soundchristian.com/chart.html ..."
