Ellerston has been there for a while with these guys. Shimmer doesn't go for song and dance into something, when he comments it could be a 10 bagger minimum. So if you think they are idiots, good luck to you. The book is over few times and they haven't even started the promotion.If you could get me $100K at 25c into the IPO, I will close my eyes and take it pal. Let me know, for this and also for Adriatic. i.e. 25% commission for you. Mean it sincerely dude, let me know.